The Way Out Is In

The Way Out Is In podcast is a reflective and insightful series that explores personal growth, healing, and self-discovery.

The podcast is co-produced by the Plum Village App and Global Optimism, with support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation. It is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Hanh’s personal attendant for 17 years and the abbot of Plum Village’s Upper Hamlet, and Jo Confino, who works at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change.

Through conversations with experts, storytellers, and everyday people, the podcast delves into themes of mental health, resilience, spirituality, and emotional well-being. It encourages listeners to look inward—embracing vulnerability and authenticity—as a path to overcoming challenges and finding deeper meaning in life. With a compassionate and thoughtful approach, The Way Out Is In offers guidance and inspiration for anyone seeking to navigate life’s complexities with greater awareness and hope.